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Shouldn't we call it WFCE then ?

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Quoting: tmtvl

Quoting: SzkodnixOkay, now for real: that's a great change. Finally XFCE will start to catch up.

Switching WM in Xfce is fairly easy, but it is interesting how LXQt got Wayland support before Xfce.

That's because lxqt is using labwc as its WM. So could Xfce; but apparently wlroots being written in C disqualifies it.

If this announcement contained some specifics as to what the Xfce devs find lacking in wlroots, and how they aim to remedy that, I think I would've been more enthusiastic. E.g. bare wlroots/labwc (as opposed to sway that comes with its own IPC interface) is still waiting on various wayland extensions to gain important features -- such as exposing to the user which window goes in which virtual desktop (?!).

'Wayland support' isn't a magical on/off switch. Various components of the Xfce environment already got 'wayland support' by virtue of the GTK3 port several years ago. The panel became usable on wlroots compositors as of 4.20, albeit with missing plugins -- most notably the virtual desktop pager, due to the missing extension I was talking about above.

If Xfce devs were to adopt labwc or wayfire are their WM, and then contribute to wayland protocols development to bring those WMs to feature parity with xfwm, they would've benefitted a wider array of desktop environments. Apparently that's an unreasonable ask.

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Damn I knew I should have bought more popcorn this weekend

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"(formerly Minetest)"

"The knights who all too recently said 'Ni'!"

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Great news! XFCE is my favorite DE.

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There is not escaping minecraft, it's all the kids talk about. That and the cursed roblox.

Thanks to Launti and the Voxelibre team, my kid can get his minecraft fix without any interactions with microsoft.

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Or maybe this is all misinterpretation? It could be official as in "gpd officially supports it", not the other way around. "The bazzite team" could be a team inside gpd that is working to make bazzite work.

I don't know, haven't checked, and am not interested in gpd. Just saying, don't jump to conclusions.

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It's not surprising at all - I think they might have a third party involved and neither Bazzite team or GPD realize that. They probably have someone pretending to be a Bazzite developer scamming GPD out of a device for themselves or to sell on eBay. This is nothing new and quite common with YouTubers to have scammers pretending to be someone else to get free stuff.

Here's an example of one such situation that has a good ending: https://youtube.com/watch?v=asq0ubkgjHc

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The situation is getting weirder by the day

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Luanti is great 👍

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Quoting: SzkodnixOkay, now for real: that's a great change. Finally XFCE will start to catch up.

Switching WM in Xfce is fairly easy, but it is interesting how LXQt got Wayland support before Xfce.

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They could've said that they're releasing a version with Bazzite. Or they could've actually reached out to the devs.

This is such an easy to avoid publicity situation, it's baffling. Bazzite is already a community developed distribution that most likely will support GPD hardware anyway.

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Great to hear! I was actually looking at testing XFCE and was wondering how the Wayland support was.

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Quoting: Linux_RocksThe Zoom Platform support is awesome. Hopefully they'll also add Itch.io support soon too.

For that to happen Itch would need to have an API which exposes the functionality that Heroic needs. As of the present that isn't the case (heck, the flatpak Itch app doesn't work properly).

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Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: pbWhich means that anyone suing Valve does not represent the interest of the consumers - ever.

That is quite a sentence to write in a post probably meant not to be corporate bootlicking 😆

I don't like corpos in general, and I have plenty reasons to be pissed at valve (the major one being outdated "price recommendations" telling the publishers that 1 USD is worth 4.59 PLN, when today it's actually 3.50, I kid you not), but there's this and there's that. I don't think litigation by a random entity suing for a billion in "damages" would do any of us (PLN payers) any good on that front. It's not about consumers and if it were, it would be proceeded by a Consumer Protection Office or some such - that's something I'd be fully behind.

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Exciting news. I would definitely consider going back to Xfce once they ship with full Wayland support. Was using it for many years but recently switched to Gnome because of the lack of Wayland support. On my machine, games run so much more smoothly on Wayland.

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People crying about developing Wayland compositor/vision of XFCE dropping X11 entirely/using Rust by developer (choose your fighter) in 3... 2... 1... 😄

Okay, now for real: that's a great change. Finally XFCE will start to catch up.

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shady as usual, gpd...

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Quoting: soulsourceRed flag: The I.MX8M Plus is painfully slow...

That's CPU used by Purism in their Librem 5... So painfully slow AND painfully old.

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Quoting: pbWhich means that anyone suing Valve does not represent the interest of the consumers - ever.

That is quite a sentence to write in a post probably meant not to be corporate bootlicking 😆

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Quoting: Lofty

Quoting: ArehandoroWhile I agree with you, in this case the person that did the estimate is the same that did the work in one day 😅

" Hey look boss the thing i said would take 8 months took one day ! ,
Am i a good boy now, do i get a promotion ? Ohh OK, then maybe just another new project i guess.
... wait , you don't need me as much for the next 8 months ... wait you don't need me as much at all now, what's going on .. " 😆

At least extend the job a few months, jeez. There's always more work to do, and a company will typical NOT value something like this as much as you would like to think in terms of employee relations. And i know this is going to sound bad to some, but it kind of puts a lot of strain on the rest of a team to do the same, making the demands on everyone much higher & leading to everyone now having to rely on Ai more than critical thinking to pump out projects as fast as the previous bar was set. Playing right into the management / CEO's hands. At some point this 'extra efficiency' leads to a nice game of roulette as to which Dev gets to tell their family there not economically viable anymore. I mean, don't shirk your responsibilities but you have to work out a good work life balance within your role.

So do your work well. Efficiently but learn how to play the game at least a little bit. Remember the management already learned how to play the game hence why they have so many 'strategic meetings' and paid for business trips to fancy hotels in foreign countries.

This is a different topic, or perhaps the consequences of said actions, but I do agree with the sentiment.

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I never was into extraction shooters before but this game is something else. You can play it casually solo and do your things with hardly any PvP at all if you chose to play that way. It matches agressive players into same matches as priority and also non agressives togheter.

and yeah the game looks really good visually and runs great even on my aging system (by todays standards).

every time i have taken a few days break from it and return, the first match when i spawn in i'm always like "woow this lighting and texture detail"

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Red flag: The I.MX8M Plus is painfully slow...

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Time to go back to Terraria yippeee

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Quoting: drenThe amount of corporate bootlicking happening here is crazy. We are talking about a company that effectively has a monopoly on game sales

A natural monopoly is not inherently a bad thing and does not make the company evil. As a rule of thumb, if the general public would be better after the monopolist disappears, then it's beneficial to try and bring them down. Would it be the case with Valve? I very much doubt it. The games would not get any cheaper, and nobody - for years - would provide players with the ecosystem on par with what Valve has built. That in itself is worth putting up with some idiosyncrasies. Which means that anyone suing Valve does not represent the interest of the consumers - ever.

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Anyone who complaining about 30% or something similar go work at retail or even bigger stinker - hospitality. As someone pointed out - show or prove that service on same level as Steam can operate properly, well below 30%.
... or everyone, just lets go back to 70's-90's and everything will be solved. Printing office and box taking nice cut... not to mention other physical parts, whole distribution and retail. Everyone will be happy, it's just 70%-90% cut or something.

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Hell, it's about time... /saidwithcigarinmouth

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Quoting: CaldathrasSpeaking from long experience in the retail industry, 30% is pretty much standard fair unless you are targeting wholesale business levels (mega corps with big box storefronts like Walmart, Home Depot, Office Depot, Best Buy, etc.). Computer hardware and livestock feed are two areas that I am aware of that operate on wholesale pricing margins. As such, I have absolutely no objections to Valve's commission structure and see no reason why they should be expected to target wholesale margins like the big box mega corps.

There is no argument anywhere that this isn't standard.

The argument is that the standard is simply way too high, filling coffers drastically more for the one taking the cut.
As someone who has worked with online infrastructures for ages, there is no calculation that even remotely ends in the 30% range of cost coverage.
Much more realistic is somewhere between 12-20% - and that doesn't even take into account all the services Valve charges for with that cut, WHICH AREN'T EVEN USED BY THE MAJORITY OF DEVS.
There is also size - a 2GB game quite frankly should get a (marginally, as one factor of many) lower cut than a 200GB one. Yet that doesn't happen.
Etc.
The whole system is full of logic holes like that. It is equal for all, but somewhat paradoxically, that does not make it fair.

I do not believe physical stores are a good comparison to digital ones. Digital infrastructure is much, much, much, much cheaper.
Although, hey, with the current pricing spikes and shortages, who knows, maybe we'll actually end up with 30% becoming reasonable.
I sure hope not...

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Nope, no breaks so far. It did happen previously, when I was originally on Endeavour a couple of years back. Then I switched to Siduction for a couple of years. Just recently back on Arch, this time via CachyOS and it's been a great experience.

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China's CCP with UK overtones. That's what this all is becoming.

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