Quoting: CatKiller... as they found with the last generation when people were willing to pay way more than Nvidia were charging and all the middle-men were pocketing the difference.

Yep, but these buyers were crypto miners, not PC Gamers, that bought gpus by the dozens. It's two different markets, two different demographics, two different budget ranges. Crypto miners didn't care, they knew mining would recoup the high prices. There is nothing comparable in the PC Gaming space.

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Quoting: TheRiddickPrices however are skewed thanks to the crypto craze period where GPUs went up %500 $...

The crypto craze is gone, and it never had any impact on Nvidia or AMD's msrp.

It showed that they'd been undercharging before. "What the market will bear" has been drummed as the only appropriate price for every product in every industry for generations.

But when the craze is gone, there is an overstock of gpus on the market and prices are collapsing back to normal because the gaming segment can't keep up. The crypto miners might be willing to pay double price, but PC gamers, probably not so much. If Nvidia is basing it's prices on crypto miners' willingness, they might miss the target for the forseeable futur. Now that the Ethereum as fully merged into PoS, let's see how it plays out for Nvidia, with it's traditional market.

Unless Nvidia plans on pushing PC gamers towards GeForce Now with higher price brackets...

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Quoting: TheRiddickYou'd be better to just get a NVIDIA Geforce Now account and streaming it via online, I know lots of people who do that because they've given up on the cost of PC hardware.

That might be right and it's probably part of Nvidia's strategy too. Luckily, being the owner of an Nvidia Shield, I already have a founders subscription, on GeForce Now. So...

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Quoting: TheRiddickPrices however are skewed thanks to the crypto craze period where GPUs went up %500 $...

The crypto craze is gone, and it never had any impact on Nvidia or AMD's msrp.

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Quoting: TheRiddickThe 4090 is projected stable TDP of 450W? what was the 3090 TDP?

350W

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What completely baffles me is the fact that with every new RTX generation, prices are getting higher and tdp too... To me it doesn't mean that RTX is getting closer to mainstream adoption, on the contrary, to me, it looks like Nvidia is heading in the opposite direction.

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Quoting: GuestNow that I have my steam deck all those overpriced card can go to miners (if its still a thing) or whatever buy it

Yep! I'll wait for a raytracing enabled Steam Deck... Valve already said it's going to be a thing.

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RTX 4080 16gb... 1200$ USD with 320W tdp... Thank you, but no thank you. The tech is not ready for mainstream adoption. That's all it means.

Edit: Modified tdp to follow the article updates. The 12gb model was added afterward, but it doesn't change my point of view.

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Aside from the occasional SteamOS configuration (like Emudeck and desktop apps updates), personnally, I don't use the desktop mode at all... I bought a docking station for nothing, even if I tought It was a must have. Truth is, if I need to do some heavy lifting, I have another desktop/laptop for the task. And this one too is collecting dust, anyway. I wouldn't have tought, but my Steam Deck is really just a bigger, more comfortable and more powerful, handheld only, Nintendo Switch... And I'm pretty fine with that. Oh well... :grin:

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This said, I tried connecting an external ssd through my docking station... I had to configure fstab and I had to turn off the Steam Deck completely everytime I wanted to dock/undock the Steam Deck, else I had to redo the whole Steam configuration (it didn't remember the external ssd)... It was not really plug & play.

Did Valve do something about it?

It was quite... Unserviceable, imo.

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Downloading the update on my Steam Deck...

Making me think about the Bioshock debacle. I always use the "--launcher-skip" launch option for Steam CP2077. Launches the games directly. No GOG launcher. CDPR tought about that, at least...

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