Quoting: massatt212

Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: massatt212i dont like it, they should allow Microsoft to acquire Activision, Sony is steady buying up single studios and everyone is worshipping it

I must have missed the existence of Sony churches. Really, I've never heard anyone say much good about Sony . . . does that actually happen?

Quoting: massatt212i dont like it, they should allow Microsoft to acquire Activision, Sony is steady buying up single studios and everyone is worshipping it, now Microsoft wants to compete its a problem, its so weird, i believe Blizzard will be in better hands with Microsoft compare to Activision.

Everyone saying microsoft if a Terrible company, just remember what Micheal Jackson said about sony, they both are bad.

This is not about which company is good or bad, this is about a merger having the potential to create a monopoly or a near monopoly in the market. So it also have zero to do with the amount of studios being bought (still MS have bought up more studios then Sony), instead it have to do with the huge size of Activision Blizzard, that is the single thing that activated FTC and why they are trying to block it. It's the size, nothing more.

No its not the size of Activision blizzard they are fighting about, its about the Call of duty Franchise, they dont care about the Blizzard games, its all about COD, cause if microsoft leaves says they dont want COD Sony wont have a problem with the acquirement.

You are talking about why SONY is concerned about the merger, I was talking about the FTC. The size of the deal is what made the governmental regulators like The FTC to start their investigation and they did this long before SONY said anything.

SOMY might be completely fine with the deal if COD is left out of the deal, The FTC will not. Key to this all is point #96 in their suit:

96. The Proposed Acquisition is reasonably likely to substantially lessen competition or tend to create a monopoly in the Relevant Markets by creating a combined firm with the ability and increased incentive to withhold Activision’s valuable gaming content from, or degrade Activision’s content for, Microsoft’s rivals. The combined firm would have the ability to exclude Microsoft’s rivals from access to some or all of Activision’s content in the Relevant Markets. Microsoft would have the power to decide if, when, and to what extent Activision content will be available on competing products. The Proposed Acquisition is likely to increase entry barriers, thereby dampening beneficial rivalry and innovation. If permitted to make Activision a captive supplier, Microsoft would have a substantially increased incentive to engage in strategies to that would likely lead to reduced consumer choice, higher prices or lower quality products, and less innovation.

Especially damning for MS is point #12 however as I understand it the EU commission have come out and clarified that they think that the FTC have gotten this wrong in that the EC allowed the deal without such a promise:

12. Microsoft’s past conduct provides a preview of the combined firm’s likely plans if it consummates the Proposed Acquisition, despite any assurances the company may offer regarding its plans. In March 2021, Microsoft acquired ZeniMax Media Inc. (“ZeniMax”), the parent company of the well-known game developer and publisher Bethesda Softworks LLC (“Bethesda”). Microsoft assured the European Commission (“EC”) during its antitrust review of the ZeniMax purchase that Microsoft would not have the incentive to withhold ZeniMax titles from rival consoles. But, shortly after the EC cleared the transaction, Microsoft made public its decision to make several of the newly acquired ZeniMax titles, including Starfield, Redfall, and Elder Scrolls VI, Microsoft exclusives.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: massatt212i dont like it, they should allow Microsoft to acquire Activision, Sony is steady buying up single studios and everyone is worshipping it

I must have missed the existence of Sony churches. Really, I've never heard anyone say much good about Sony . . . does that actually happen?

Quoting: massatt212i dont like it, they should allow Microsoft to acquire Activision, Sony is steady buying up single studios and everyone is worshipping it, now Microsoft wants to compete its a problem, its so weird, i believe Blizzard will be in better hands with Microsoft compare to Activision.

Everyone saying microsoft if a Terrible company, just remember what Micheal Jackson said about sony, they both are bad.

This is not about which company is good or bad, this is about a merger having the potential to create a monopoly or a near monopoly in the market. So it also have zero to do with the amount of studios being bought (still MS have bought up more studios then Sony), instead it have to do with the huge size of Activision Blizzard, that is the single thing that activated FTC and why they are trying to block it. It's the size, nothing more.

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Quoting: sarmadWhat's with the "Sexual Content" label? 🤔

It's the Bible, there's rape and sex with minors in it.

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I like this project more: BBC: Youths reveal racy Bible calendar [External Link] :)

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyIt's nice they optimized rats. Wouldn't want to be attacked by plague rats that were sub-optimal.

It's almost as important as the rats being low!

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Quoting: ArehandoroAm I the only one to think that even AMD's new cards are better than Nvidia's on power consumption, 300/355 TDP is still crazy high?

With climate change creeping up on us, current international political affairs affecting prices and availability of energy, and the market saying yes to devices like the Switch and the Deck, perhaps it's about time to demand these companies to release things more align with what the world needs.

We need to use much less energy. Not the same, and definitely not more.

There's still 100 watt and less cards on the market widely available, nobody's putting a gun to your head forcing you to get a higher end card. An extra 200 watts is also not really a lot compared to most other things in a normal household, you can literally offset that usage by not watching TV while the computer is on.

Averaged over the past year and rounded up generously, my entire single person household averaged 160 Watts. And I am confident I could reduce that by another 25% without too much effort.
Peak usage is undeniably higher when the microwave/tea kettle/washing machine are on, but they aren't for most of the time. Top consumers are the PC and the fridge, with the PC sitting at a whopping 80 right now, and hitting 200 with heavy gaming which I admittedly don't do that much these days, most of the games get by on 150ish or so.
I don't play the likes of CP77 or twitchy shooter type games, I had my fill of that crap when I was younger, but some of the sims I like do look pretty and have their respective cost in wall power.

So in summary, even "just" two hundred watts just for a GPU is insane, as are a thousand credits to pay for it, and nobody needs to commend AMD or Nvidia for not going higher still.
Consumers and marketing people alike need to get off that trainSUV, and fast. In fact, DO take the train the next time.

ED: To be fair, that number doesn't include heating, which is still fossil gas and would probably amount to about the same 150ish.figure again, and to bring that down in any meaningful way would require a massive investment in insulation on the landlord's side. Which I'm fairly certain will be coming, if and when legislation eventually requires it. So we're talking 350ish Watts instead, but still. That's one entire household's worth, just for the GPU.

On the other hand the card uses 300watts on peak, not during idle. My RX480 is rated to draw 100W but currently browsing here with a YT video playing in the background it draws about 7-10W and it's very likely that the RX7900XTX would draw even less under the same load.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: F.UltraIt's for people doing machine learning, they use GPU:s to handle the vast amounts of data so AMD, nVidia (and now Intel) are implementing new functions on their cards to improve the performance in that area. Nothing that helps the rest of us who only use these for displaying graphics and playing games.

Nothing stops games from using AI you know, for more realistic behaviors and simulation, not for graphics :)

It feels like a lot of games are running after better graphics but really almost no one is trying to improve world simulation quality.

True, I don't know if any of that game AI uses any of the ML functionality of the GPU:s yet though.

edit: AFAIK also those ML extensions have to do with the learning part of the AI research and not the end result of said research but then again I have basically zero knowledge of ML so should just shut up :)

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Quoting: jordicomaAnd I don't understand the AI accelerator part.

It's for people doing machine learning, they use GPU:s to handle the vast amounts of data so AMD, nVidia (and now Intel) are implementing new functions on their cards to improve the performance in that area. Nothing that helps the rest of us who only use these for displaying graphics and playing games.

Quoting: CyborgZetaWait, Tesla? Tesla cars have AMD GPUs in them?

The revamped S and X models have RDNA2 GPU:s in them yes: link [External Link]

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Quoting: TermyI was a bit surprised when i got the hardware survey prompt on my deck. Somehow would have thought they don't need the survey they... ^^

Technically they don't need it anywhere but they decided to make it voluntary.

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Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: PublicNuisanceI am hoping for open source firmware to match the drivers; no AMD PSP and no Pluton. With the way hardware is going these days I will probably be unlucky enough to get none of my wishes.

Neither of PSP or Pluton exists on GPU:s, they are both CPU technologies. Both are also highly exaggerated by the conspiracy crowd. E.g if Microsoft wants to spy on their users they don't need to implement a whole new chip (Pluton) to do that when all of their users happily runs millions of lines of code all of which Microsoft controls to 100%.

Pluton didn't exist on their CPUs either until they put it on there, no reason to suspect they won't continue to infest other product lines with it. As for PSP it is on GPUs starting with Vega and newer from what I have gathered.

https://libreboot.org/faq.html#amd-platform-security-processor-psp [External Link]

"The Platform Security Processor (PSP) is built in on the AMD CPUs whose architecture is Late Family 16h (Puma), Zen 17h or later (and also on the AMD GPUs which are GCN 5th gen (Vega) or later)."

As for whether they are exxaggerated or not that is subjective and not relevant to my wishes above. I don't want more closed source black boxes on my hardware. I can't think of any good reason for anybody to want them. People don't want them, they tolerate them, there's a difference.

That link is wrong and I have no idea where they got that info from, PSP is a CPU feature. Perhaps they are confusing it with the CPU:S that contain a low performance GPU aka the APU:s.

There is no role on the GPU that a Pluton or PSP chip can fill, by design they have both to be on the CPU (they need to be in the pre-boot environment).

Agreed that open firmwares for both would be much better, not only for "big brother" reasons but also because we all know just how badly these things are coded so they most likely contain tons of security holes.

They are not there to spy on people though, that is the conspiracy that have made so many people constantly asking if they are included or not so that is why I falsely assumed you asking the same, sorry about that.

edit: misread what you wrote about pluton so changed that part.

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