"Proton is here, so what next?"
What next?

Next, we try to convince "fresh blood" that if they truly want proper support they need to adhere to Linux-native releases from now on in order to create more noticeable pressure for developers/publishers, IMO.

After all, "+1 for Linux" is useless if you've already given your money for Windows version to them. :whistle:

Quoting: appetrosyanThere are very few truly native ports out there.

Not true.

Quoting: appetrosyanEven Feral interactive are usually taking a windows code base and add a few minor changes through SDL and only recently began making use of Vulkan. The biggest problem with all of these ports is that neither of them is open source, and you end up with a hard-coded out-dated binary. This is not the case with Proton.

That is definitely the case with Proton™. Only now on top of the closed-source Windows™ binary (unpredictably changing patch over patch) you have the imperfect WINE wrapper.

Quoting: appetrosyanI’ll give you an example of Witcher 2. It’s a native port in name only, written by Virtual Programming. To try and run this on a modern machine will have me searching forums to try and figure out which dynamic libraries it used to link against, the performance was bad when it was Wine with OpenGL, it just got worse in comparison. This is because no one went back and patched the executable to work on modern Linux machines.

Ah, I see what you've done here!

Nice try, but no. You are trying to sell the "Let's Abandon Native in Favor of Windows-as-a-Target-With-a-Wrapper" by presenting one (and only one!) extreme example ("Witcher 2") as some sort of common practice.

By doing this slap-in-the-face job of "porting" the game "Virtual Programming" has effectively trashed its reputation and now has no hope of returning to Linux business. As it should be, because instead of using "Witcher 2" as an excuse for not making Linux versions we must (and we do!) punish so-called "porters" for bad job. Granted, in case of "Witcher 2" CDPR also had its share of hate, and maybe just a little too much, but honestly, where was their Quality Control back then?

What we need are actual "Day-1" native releases made with Linux in mind from the get-go (or by using Linux-friendly game engines), not some three-years-later "ports" (of games everyone else managed to forget already) with 30% less performance and most of effects disabled.

Quoting: appetrosyanI don’t see how it will improve with time, but I do see that using Wine + DXVK will get better and better.

And I see it gets so good that it stops working after a publisher adds "Denuvo AntiCheat" (or basically any anticheat for that matter) or uploads a patch breaking "Proton Compatibility". And all that with impunity because you on Proton™ was given no guarantees at all.

Quoting: appetrosyanThe trick here is that because you’re taking the control from the full binary and giving it to the Wine runtime, you are effectively making an openSource interpreter for a proprietary language. The developers only have to worry about making it work on Windows, and proton takes care of the rest. And I think that’s what Carmack meant in his age-old 2012 post about GOL. By making native ports with bad user experience we are only going to turn people off of running Linux.

And they will do just that!
Are you using Proton™? Not our problem! So long and thanks for your money!

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Philae lithobraking on a comet. Now in KSP! Great!

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Decided to make a break from "X4: Foundations" and play something different.

Ended up playing "Kerbal Space Program" non-stop. :D

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As I have a strict limit on GOG purchases, I'll wait a little on this one (maybe there will be something better).

But the music is good, so I've got myself a copy on Bandcamp (Love that site! Top-notch DRM-free service!). :)

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This "Humble Indie Bundle" is a total disgrace! (IMSO)
Not only it includes non-Linux games, but also lacks DRM-free versions of some Linux versions.

Just a mockery of true Humble Indie Bundles with the same name.

I say, if you really want one of these games, just purchase it normally!

Quoting: TuxeeGuys, what did you expect? The first HBs were released when there was practically no Linux gaming in existence. It was sensational and the market share of the bundles by Linux users demonstrated this. Games were ported to Linux because of the bundles. Nowadays you get thousands of Linux titles and bundles, indie games frequently have same-day releases for Linux, too. With the advent of Steam and recently Proton there is just no place for Humble Indie Bundles anymore.

(And yes, they could have just left it there and skipped an anniversary bundle.)

What did I expect?
Well, maybe some dignity? Even though we are bathed in hundreds of games, "they" (whoever those "they" are, "they" have the audacity to still use the same name) should "stick to their guns" and honor the tradition that defined the Humble Indie Bundle: 1) Pay what you want; 2) DRM-free; 3) Cross-platform; 4) Charity.

There were setbacks ("Giana Sisters" etc.) in the past, but at least Humble Inc. tried! They could assemble a collection of small indie titles (maybe even some from earlier bundles) and I'm sure people would get the bundle just because. But no, IGN have trumped on the base HIB principles. :sick:

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This makes the X570/B550 rather pointless boards. They will die off with AM5 socket entering the market.

Really disappointed about lack of B450 support for Zen 3 but this only means I won't get myself another AMD CPU as an upgrade in another 5 years till I completely switch the platform (CPU/RAM/PCIExpress version). Until then the R3600 should suffice.

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Quoting: NeverthelessMaybe secure boot was the most idiotic idea, and ME and PSP came because of it..
At least it seems PSP is much better implemented than ME...

Yeah, much better.
If I were you, I wouldn't be so glad some obscure dude at AMD or its partner (like Netflix or CIA) controls my PC more "professionally". :S:
Besides, these guys are already working on it and have achieved some success [External Link].
And their findings and tools are here [External Link]. :whistle:

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Quoting: wvstolzingdnfdragora is an abomination; but you don't have to use it. Same with any other annoying feature (for me, firewalld is pretty annoying also, since I prefer plain nfstables).

Oh yeah, I definitely can. But as for those buyers of Lenovo ThinkPads… I am not so sure.:S:

Quoting: wvstolzingI'm upgrading right now.

Good luck and happy upgrade to you!

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"EarlyOOM" could be useful on my Intel® Atom™ N270 notebook with 2GiB of memory. Sadly, Fedora had dropped 32bit support last release, which means I should seek another options soon. :(

Otherwise, a good distro for those who don't mind constant bug-stream and half-broken system utilities. Dnfdragora (current repository GUI, at least as of 30 release) is an atrocity and a crime against humanity, not only it is ugly and counter-intuitive as hell, but it constantly crashes (leaving root-level "dnf-daemon" running in an inaccessible state, still awaiting commands from long gone GUI) and leaks memory like there is no tomorrow (~150MiB for every package list re-build/refresh attempt).

Verily, the RHEL's test site in its finest. :D

Quoting: GuestFedora has been "rolling enough" for me in most ways and not far behind if at all, stable, and has everything I've needed in the repos.

Seriously? Wow! I thought RPMFusion is a must, one can not even watch a video (due to proprietary codecs) with only the base "fedora" and "updates" repos.

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Just FYI: The Dev have admitted that despite being on itch.io, there will be only a stub to redirect buyers to Steam instead: [External Link]

We won't make it completely DRM free, we may remove the email requirement in the past. And the key will convert to Steam for free, as soon as available.

Quoting: K2Software…

Nice to see another developer here on the GoL site.
So, you are saying itch.io would not be DRM-free and will be used to redirect customeers to Steam in the future, am I right?

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