maybe google pulled an "FNA " but on directX instead of xna?

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Quoting: Creak

Quoting: elmapulunreal is source code avaliable though

As Liam said, it's still proprietary.
And as for Unity, you can browse the C# code here: https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/UnityCsReference [External Link]

Indeed, you don't have access to the C++, but you can take a deeper look into what's happening (and Unity is using C# more and more over C++)

ok i decided to finally read the licence after so many years of reading the news that epic "open sourced it" and you are right, it may be usefull for those who want to learn how its done, but its almost useless for those who want to reuse it.
its not as useless as unity licence, but its HUGE and from the little that i saw i can see how its not even close to an free licence.
its much worse than GPL, Mit, Appache.

now i'm depressed to know that the human species gave millions to epic to the point they were able to build something like unreal 5... and its licence is almost as bad as an full proprietary licence.

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Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: PhiladelphusI don't recall ever hearing of the Amazon Lumberyard engine before. What kinds of games has it been used to create? :huh:

The only one I know of is Crucible [External Link], which didn't turn out too well.

There is also Star Citizen which started out on CryEngine but "switched" to Lumberyard at some point for reasons that I don't remember. However, since SC basically forked it as well, this should now be considered a third cryengine fork.

epic licenced unreal code to tons of developers in the past, if we go by that logic almost no one used unreal ever, they just used an fork of it.

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Quoting: KristianThis is MIT/Apache... so Valve, Epic, CryTek, Unity, id Software, the Godot people etc etc can all use code from this in their own engines if they want to.

yes, but its not so easy to integrate.
maybe godot should get their render, maybe as an alternate option (eg: opengl 2, vulkan, cryengine =p)
i'm not sure how hard it would be to do, blender has tons of render options so it might be possible, but godot is taking forever to make the vulkan render for a reason

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"With the likes of Unity and Unreal Engine being the biggest around currently, both of which are proprietary"
unreal is source code avaliable though

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very nice story that she told on the second video, it worth watching, i gotta finish watching it later

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"handcrafted levels" good, no procedural bullshit.
good to know they beted on quality control instead of luck.
dont get me wrong, some games can be procedural and good, but its easier to make an decent level by hand, so its easier to bet this product is good before i buy.

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Quoting: elmapulAnyone trust valve to make an game console again after the steam machines flop?

Can not be compared.
The Steam Machine(s) were a train wreck of a launch partly due to it being announced way, waaaay too early (Valve may not have expected the instant response by the hardware manufacturers), but primarily because Valve did not make this game console. They just provided the (premature) OS. It was up to whoever out there to make whatever PC-in-a-console-hood they wanted to and put SteamOS on it. No directions, no restrictions, no plan whatsoever.

That was a horrible idea. Horrible!

So while I do share your pessimism it's for entirely different reasons.

even worse, they cant control what happens with their own brand

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i heard about it this week and now its here, quite an small world

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"Send loads out to developers long before release. Gosh I hope they're doing this. How do you get people interested in supporting it? Give them developer kits. Other console makers do this for good reason."
actually the reason why developers support stuff is because they are paid upfront to do it, so they make profits before they sell an single copy of their games, and even more if they do sell (they might even put aditional money intro improving the performance post launch if it sell enough copies)

"Some form of external streaming media support out of the box. Yes, I know, that the main point is gaming but we're long past the point of such single-use devices"
did switch support anything else?

"Over to you in the comments: what do you want from it?"
an good batery life, despite the fact it will be x86.

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