While its nice they will officially launch a app to free the controller, I believe someone would eventually had found a way to enable BT on those controllers, probably even without help from the dev team.

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I decided to jump out of this game of having a top PC, to play AAA games at max settings a while ago. Now what I want is a efficient machine that runs cool on stock coolers.

Things started to became too repetitive (again) a decade ago, with most big-name games recycling the same ideas with more beautiful graphics. For example, I didn't finished the last 2 Tomb Riders. Felt like I was playing a DLC of the first game. Call of Duty fell off my radar after the first Black Ops. I'm not a competitive player (hate cheaters and annoying looser kids), so their emphasis on multiplayer did nothing for me.

Indie games at last try something new, since in a ocean of them, is do something different or die. And when they commit the same sin of recycling old gameplay like big studios do, I didn't need a powerful PC to play them nor do I need to pay full price plus a kidney in cash-grab schemes.

If I feel the itch to play AAA games, I still had a couple dozen from few years ago, that play very nice in my current "poor gamer" PC.

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Quoting: Klaas

Quoting: M@GOidF710

Really? I've had to jump through a lot of hoops to get Lego Batman (without Steam) to recognize my wired Logitech gamepad.

Edit: To clarify: I've always assumed that there is no gamepad that works in every game.

I also said "nearly perfect" :-)

So you found another game to stain the reputation of the Logitech gamepads. I had encountered only one game in my 200+ library that didn't recognized it, but worked fine with the XB360.

Also, the only game that didn't worked with the XB360 (wired), the undisputed champion of compatibility, is Grow Home, but it had a crocked Linux port anyway. Only way to make a gamepad work with it was to use Steam Input to send keyboard presses to it.

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Quoting: Lofty

Quoting: M@GOidNot what I am looking for right now. Since I'm riding the indie wave, what I need is a decent D-Pad. And those that are under the analog simply wont do, no matter how good the actual pad is. Location location location. I have a Dual Shock 4, but the D-pad is unbearable for those of us that had tasted Nintendo's finest.

I was about to get a 8bitdo Pro 2, but after their recent releases, I have the gut feeling a "Pro 3" is in the works. So for now I'm using a original N64 controller with a USB adapter. Those things have great D-Pads that nobody used back then, so mine is like new, despite having been manufactured 25 years ago.

My advice is to not get the pro 2, i have this and the buttons stick and creak. the triggers are too easy to press (like almost no resistance) the dpad is meh. not only that it has not been very compatible for me at all even on xinput mode, some proton games will not work even when its supposed to be set as an xbox controller. Oddly only the switch emulation works well in these cases but then the buttons are mapped incorrectly. Ohh and i cannot get anything to recognise the back under side paddle buttons.. and .. yes there is more .. the rumble barely works on most games if at all. If you want a controller like an xbox controller get an xbox controller.

However its not all bad for 8bitdo if your after a retro/indie game wave where you only need a really good d-pad and a decent set of face buttons (no analogue or rumble) then the M30 model (that looks like a megadrive controller) is much better built and the d-pad is excellent.

Looks like you got a lemon, since this is the first time I see someone saying those things about the Pro 2. Or maybe you had a very high standard for noise? In my collection, the Xbox360 is the quietest. Is this the one you had before?

Personally, I like light triggers, since this is the norm nowadays and I cannot go back for the very hard ones in the XBox 360 and Logitech F710.

Compatibility of gamepads nowadays is a hit or miss unfortunately, since some games do not implement Steam Input nor SDL2. Of all my controllers, only the XB360 and F710 had near perfect compatibility. The Dualshock4, Xbone and Steam Controller all had some (or multiple) games that refuse to recognize them.

As for the M30, while I do like the Saturn gamepad format (I also have one and the Dreamcast one with a adapter!), I do prefer the Nintendo D-pad more.

So in the end I think I will wait. I have too much gamepads already and the next one must check all the right points, otherwise I will stick with what I already have.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: Lofty

Quoting: M@GOidNot what I am looking for right now. Since I'm riding the indie wave, what I need is a decent D-Pad. And those that are under the analog simply wont do, no matter how good the actual pad is. Location location location. I have a Dual Shock 4, but the D-pad is unbearable for those of us that had tasted Nintendo's finest.

I was about to get a 8bitdo Pro 2, but after their recent releases, I have the gut feeling a "Pro 3" is in the works. So for now I'm using a original N64 controller with a USB adapter. Those things have great D-Pads that nobody used back then, so mine is like new, despite having been manufactured 25 years ago.

My advice is to not get the pro 2, i have this and the buttons stick and creak. the triggers are too easy to press (like almost no resistance) the dpad is meh. not only that it has not been very compatible for me at all even on xinput mode, some proton games will not work even when its supposed to be set as an xbox controller. Oddly only the switch emulation works well in these cases but then the buttons are mapped incorrectly. Ohh and i cannot get anything to recognise the back under side paddle buttons.. and .. yes there is more .. the rumble barely works on most games if at all. If you want a controller like an xbox controller get an xbox controller.

However its not all bad for 8bitdo if your after a retro/indie game wave where you only need a really good d-pad and a decent set of face buttons (no analogue or rumble) then the M30 model (that looks like a megadrive controller) is much better built and the d-pad is excellent.

I actually had to double-check which gamepad you're writing about, because it's so weird how much our experience differs. The Pro 2 has been hands down the best controller I've ever owned. The buttons are responsive and quiet. The triggers aren't very stiff but they provide just the right amount of resistance for fine control. The D-pad isn't too bad either. And compatibility in X-input mode (with Steam Input and outside of steam) has been excellent. Maybe we don't play the same games?

The paddles on the bottom don't work, that's true. But you can only set them to double as face buttons even on Windows apparently. Doesn't sound very useful. And about rumble, I'll take your word for that one. I've never seen the point of controller vibration so I always disable it.

The bottom paddles are there so you don't need to leave the right analog stick to press a face button. They work great in FPS games. I have them on the Steam Controller, BTW.

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Not what I am looking for right now. Since I'm riding the indie wave, what I need is a decent D-Pad. And those that are under the analog simply wont do, no matter how good the actual pad is. Location location location. I have a Dual Shock 4, but the D-pad is unbearable for those of us that had tasted Nintendo's finest.

I was about to get a 8bitdo Pro 2, but after their recent releases, I have the gut feeling a "Pro 3" is in the works. So for now I'm using a original N64 controller with a USB adapter. Those things have great D-Pads that nobody used back then, so mine is like new, despite having been manufactured 25 years ago.

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It is being review bombed on Steam. I sure will do my part to help this Nvidia marketing tool to sell 1600 dollar cards...

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Quoting: rcritI hear it's going to be really boring. I'd recommend that nobody watch. I'll watch and let you know how it goes.

Wait a minute...

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So, this is what it looks like to play while you are on acid. Okay.

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I have been playing those with gamepads for years now. Today I use my Steam Controller with a custom layout, since I find the default lacking for my priorities.

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